Episode Three: Hope, Grief, and Letting Go: What To Do When They Won’t Change

Dr Cynthia talks on the Mama Shrink Podcast about what to do when people don't change-the hope, grief, and letting go

One of the hardest truths you’ll ever have to accept is this:

“You can’t make someone change if they don’t want to”.

You loved him through it. Supported him through it. Made excuses for it. Adjusted around it. Hoped, prayed, waited, and tried again.

And he is exactly the same as he was five years ago.

This is one of the hardest truths to face, not just understand intellectually, but actually feel and accept: you cannot make someone change. Not with enough love. Not with enough patience. Not with better boundaries or clearer communication or one more honest conversation. If someone does not want to change, they will not. And the life you keep putting on hold waiting for them to become who they could be is the one you are not living.

In this episode, Dr. Cynthia goes deep on one of the most painful and most necessary conversations for women in toxic marriages, narcissistic relationships, and high-conflict co-parenting situations. The hope that keeps you stuck. The grief that comes when you finally stop hoping. And what it actually means to let go of someone you still love.

She talks about the "maybe" loop, that place so many high-functioning women live in, where they're not quite in and not quite out, because maybe this time will be different, maybe he heard me this time, maybe if I just explain it better. The maybe loop is not weakness. It is what happens when you love someone and you keep giving them the benefit of the doubt they stopped deserving a long time ago.

Dr. Cynthia talks about the grief that nobody prepares you for, not just the grief of the relationship ending, but the grief of finally accepting that the person you thought they were, the person they showed you they could be in the beginning, was never fully real. That is its own particular kind of loss. And it deserves to be grieved properly, not rushed through on the way to "moving on."

This episode is raw, honest, and deeply validating conversation for any woman who is exhausted from hoping and not sure how to stop.

In this episode:

  • The "maybe" loop — why you stay stuck between knowing and leaving

  • Why you cannot love someone into changing and what that costs you to finally accept

  • The link between toxic hope, trauma bonding, and emotional burnout

  • Grieving the person they could have been — and why that grief is real and valid

  • How high-functioning women get caught in cycles of over-functioning and self-blame

  • What it means to stop waiting and start reclaiming your own life

  • What boundaries actually look like when the other person has no intention of respecting them

  • The difference between hope and denial — and how to tell which one you're living in

  • How to begin healing when grief, guilt, and confusion keep pulling you back

  • Why letting go is not giving up — and why staying is not loyalty

You have not failed at this relationship. You have succeeded at surviving one that was never going to give you what you needed.

The grief of that is real. The relief on the other side of it is also real.

And you deserve to find out what your life looks like when you stop pouring everything you have into someone who was never going to meet you there.

Dr. Cynthia Edwards-Hawver, Psy.D.

Dr. Cynthia Edwards-Hawver, Psy.D., is a licensed clinical psychologist with over 25 years of experience helping high-achieving women heal from narcissistic abuse, trauma bonding, antagonistic relationships, burnout, divorce, and the overwhelming reality of parenting while recovering from relational trauma. She specializes in working with midlife mothers who feel emotionally exhausted, confused, and destabilized while trying to protect their children and rebuild their lives after toxic relationships.

Dr. Edwards-Hawver earned her B.S. with distinction from Cornell University, completed her doctoral training at Wright State University, and her APA-accredited internship at Penn State University. She is licensed in Pennsylvania and practices across state lines through PSYPACT, providing telehealth services to women navigating complex divorces, post-separation abuse, and parallel parenting with narcissistic or antagonistic partners.

Her clinical focus includes trauma bonding, gaslighting, nervous system exhaustion, narcissistic burnout, post-separation abuse, and the impossible position mothers face when trying to heal while co-parenting or parallel parenting with a toxic ex. She works with intelligent, capable women who can excel professionally yet feel trapped, doubting themselves, and unable to understand why leaving feels so impossible.

What sets Dr. Cynthia’s work apart is her refusal to offer oversimplified advice. She does not minimize how hard this is. She understands that burnout—not weakness—keeps women stuck, that trauma bonding alters decision-making, and that traditional relationship advice does not apply when narcissism and emotional abuse are present.

She is the host of The Mama Shrink Podcast, where she discusses parenting, mental health, physical health, and the realities of healing while raising children in the midst of high-conflict relationships. She is currently writing her first book on healing from narcissistic burnout and rebuilding life at midlife while parenting through it.

Beyond her clinical practice, Dr. Cynthia is building an educational platform that includes a YouTube channel, online courses, a healing membership community, and resources for mothers navigating narcissistic relationships, divorce, and generational trauma while trying to create safety for their children and themselves.

Her work is grounded in decades of clinical experience, rigorous training, and lived understanding of what it takes to recover from relational trauma while embracing her new life as a single mom.

https://www.drcynthiahawver.com
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